I had recently moved to the United States. That changes what content you do acquire, how much you invest, what the business rationale is. Actually, I think I’m going to play Fortnite.” That’s an earlier-stage decision, and what he’s reflecting on is the fact that they’re increasingly losing that choice and they can’t compete there. When you spoke a minute ago about the fact that audiences are going to pay $7 for Netflix, or rather ... $7 for Disney and then $12 for Netflix, you have to look at it at a broader context. Music is an even more modest $33B. But again, there are not 300 million Americans saying, “I want to watch five-and-a-half hours of YouTube.”. A Satirical Essay for Recode/Vox: 10 lessons for all the streamers trying to take down Netflix. 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When the future of the world looked like picking from two dozen Netflixes, it made sense the average household would settle on only a few. For a long time, I’ve assumed that the people who work at Amazon, Jeff Bezos on down, know what they’re doing. That makes it very ruthless for those who are left, and if you believe that it’s not going to get to 10, it’s very hard to see how many people are going to win. Every weekend, hundreds of headlines are written about the latest box office blockbuster or bomb. And, by the way, Netflix, when they were doing originals, started off doing that kind of programming. “Maybe I’m going to pay for some version of ESPN, or something in sports.”, The point is, what I’m going to pay is finite, especially now that I have the actual choice. That’s the short version. They already do that. Amazon says its Fire TV box has 34 million users worldwide, which gives it the power to own the streaming video relationship with consumers the way Apple does with its media box, the Apple TV. I mean, if we were to take apart why 3-D worked, why VR didn’t work, and when and if those might come around, there are distinct reasons for that. We’re going to charge a lot of money for this podcast. The reality is, most of these companies are actually saying, “We’re going to give you bigger, better, more expensive content.” That money has to go somewhere, whether there’s a bundle or whether there’s not. Along the way they dropped a three-minute preview of one of their Apple+ TV shows. At Amazon, we took a British series, Top Gear. At the same time other forces advanced in E.Ghouta reaching some parts of Hazrama (2) And so, now we were going to customers and saying, “We will give you a better experience, with more content, with a direct access to the HBO content you like.” And, by the way, internally, we’re now no longer paying for that, right? You are cleaning up after your kids, you’re cooking dinner, you’re relaxing, you got off work. Do you still license catalog content? There’s still going to be demand for it. I do want to ask you about bundles and re-bundling. Why the best referees for Twitter and Facebook may be the people who work there. Walmart’s e-commerce chief is leaving to build “a city of the future”. Time said they’re trying to figure out how much to charge for this. – a film which starred Barbara Streisand at her peak and won three Academy Awards – forced it into insolvency. Yeah, all right. Everyone wants to own that sort of dominant home screen, whatever that right metaphor is for video viewing. And so, in a weird way, Netflix – which has spent a decade teaching legacy media how to survive in the digital era – may have the least progressive business model. We’ve gone over Disney, Netflix, Apple, I’m going to save Amazon for a second. At least two years. I really value Disney. And they know that people are particularly passionate about video. What about all the stuff on YouTube that is free/nearly free? And I watched it, in and out, and again way out of the demo, it seemed terrible to me. Or had you stopped already? And I decided that I’d just walk in and try to introduce myself. You think they’re in. In 2021, the company will launch an ad-supported version of HBO Max. So even though it’s video games, it’s a whole different idea. So, what you’re seeing is whether that’s coming from the traditional game makers or the mobile game makers trying to make more of a leaned-back passive gaming experience or you see the video-related companies — and again, Soderbergh made Mosaic with HBO a year ago. Some are being retained internally, some are still going to be sold on the open marketplace. Steward were putting the ball in the basket. And that’s one of the great advantages, as I mentioned, with tech, because they have the money and the reach and the time, which is not at all to say that the programming isn’t up to snuff. OTT Video. They’re the best. There are numerous examples of that. You like what Disney announced. You think creatively in a different way. Right. I think there are a number of people in the marketplace who have said that Disney would be better off just selling their content to Netflix, and of course there are going to be many consumers who sit back and they say, “I kind of preferred when I could see Black Panther on Netflix and now you’re saying I have to go pay for it on Disney.”. And, to some extent, it doesn’t matter how much an audience member knows what’s what or where it’s coming from in the same way an Amazon customer doesn’t care if it’s fulfilled by Amazon, shipped by Amazon, or an Amazon Basics. Since Matt Patricia was fired, Matthew Stafford has been the second best NFL quarterback by PFF grade, and has posted three straight games with a passer rating of 100 or higher. You know that there’s so much content, you’re never ever going to finish it anyway. I think the lesson here, I’m guessing, is it’s very hard for the incumbent company to figure out how to do a different version of itself. Not only does this mean it can withstand failure, but its parent can now recoup this investment across everything from theme parks, consumer products, broadcast and cable television networks, and consumer hardware and/or telecoms service. It’s this idea that it was primarily coastal, upper-income programming. What were you doing prior to writing for Jason Hirschhorn? Well, as you just heard, I’m not the best judge of how to monetize my own work, and certainly, as the CEO of Disney and owner of ESPN, Bob knows quite well, so maybe you should go with him. And so, I spent about a year prepping pieces so that they could come out in rapid succession, working with Jason. Then you have the channels program, which is the primary seller of HBO, Showtime, and Starz, and so forth. The real question there is, we know that on digital, the feedback loops are very strong. You hire different creators. This is weird. You’re a big Netflix fan, but you’re also a Disney fan. The partners did not like that. I don’t think that there’s anything fundamentally different about how they operate internally. However, this generally reflected high barriers to entry and the regularity of consumer need, rather than the value of content itself. And so, when you talk about someone like me who had written first about what I think the digital opportunity looks like, Chernin was focused on going after, with real rigor, emerging but generally overlooked small to modest opportunities like Crunchyroll, and then going to Amazon, which is saying, “We’re going for it. Let’s talk about Lord of the Rings, right? I mean, again, not everything is my kids, but my kids will watch unlimited amounts of people playing Fortnite on YouTube. We think we can be the seller of everyone else. You couldn’t save, you don’t have multiple people playing. And, at the bottom of that Redef newsletter, it said where his address was. Facebook, I think, is still exploring this idea. Ultimately, this may mean the “Streaming Wars” never happen – or not directly, at least. You’re watching on Netflix, you’re less likely to plug out and plug in, you’re just going to keep watching. $120 for a year of Spotify or Apple Music (i.e. What is the thing ... And you’re always telling people what they don’t understand about Netflix. No. It absolutely is. I’d been working with the company Illumination Entertainment. They also have the time to spend 10 years trying to get this right. It’s a done deal. And this was really, as part of a big process at Amazon — which at the time was still very small, I think they had 100 employees at the studio, they were only in four countries. For very fundamental reasons, when you played an arcade game, that experience was tapped out at 30 minutes. A perfect example of, despite saying they were committed to winning in SVOD, Big Media wants to have their cake, eat it to - and then hope they get a 3rd cake Featuring: Matthew Ball (@ballmatthew), Analyst It doesn’t have to. And then John Stankey did an interview with Bloomberg, within hours of that story coming out, and saying, basically it’s going to be $15, but whatever it is, it’s going to be some kind of ... there’ll be HBO, and then they’ll add more stuff and they may or may not charge extra for it. Or I want to hear what you think of that argument. The home-sharing platform took drastic measures to prevent violence in the capital — but at what cost? Why are we going to do this? Yeah, so when they first came out with their trailer for Planet of the Apps, the short-lived TV series that I think came back out in 2017. Despite the intensity, frequency and size of our media appetites, consumers worldwide don’t really spend much money on content. But there’s no one — really — to police the platforms except their owners and employees. For years, the dominant bear thesis for Netflix was that every big media company would launch at Netflix-style service, only with “better” content and a deeper balance sheet. Bandersnatch, that’s coming from the other angle. And then the second component is just, until audiences say, “We either want to reduce how much we watch, or we just want to take what Netflix has,” you’re not going to see a reduction. You’re trained to a different feedback loop. The shift towards Netflix/pay-TV-styled “all you can eat” content subscribers, such as Apple Arcade, Google Play Pass and Xbox Game Pass, may also curb category revenue. Was that a first job out of school type of thing? Well, and frankly, the very premise of Fortnite is how quickly it adapts. It doesn’t matter whether it was this year or last year or even 2021. And I showed up and it was a very strange situation because I basically had to say to the attendant who didn’t even work for him, it’s a startup space, I was like, “My name is Liam Boluk.” And she says, “Can I see your ID?” And, of course, I have to say, “Well, it says Matthew Ball.” And so, she has to pass this weird note to Jason that says, “This guy Liam ...”. Amazon, Apple and Google each operate structurally unprofitable music services because the money they lose per subscriber is outweighed by the extra revenue generated elsewhere. 2020 Election Coronavirus ... By Matthew Ball and Alex Kruglov November 12, 2019 I want to go through a few more media companies and then I want to talk more about you. I think that’s right. As analyst and venture capitalist Matthew Ball noted on Twitter, the fact that people are stuck at home “will give every new, nascent and yet-to-launch OTT … I think the more important way to think about it is really in this idea that what we traditionally think of as video games and what we traditionally think of as video is converging. I don’t want to keep talking about ballerinas. Vox main menu. It’s choose your adventure video. Multiple brands, right? The idea I think of assembling a WarnerMedia offering is just more challenging because that connection between the brands, what that brand means, is just a lot more opaque. Then we get to Transparent. And they needed to start building up that managerial level. But then, that was right around the time in which we started selling HBO. I mean that in the sense of, when you go to a media company to consult, they talk about there’s 20 years of hierarchy, there’s ... There’s process. Millions rely on Vox’s explainers to understand an increasingly chaotic world. Yeah. But most consumers won’t need to make that choice. Any reason to think that the fact that Disney has not been in the business of streaming, it doesn’t have that technical expertise that Netflix has been building for years and years and years and had to go out and buy it, via BAMTech, etc., that that will be an issue for them? Yeah, they’re phenomenal characters. What’s your sense of how they’re operating differently now than they did under your tenure? Then you have those like Disney, who are just need-to-haves. I said, “Well we’re going to stop doing that, because we’re going to be adding this Disney service.” And they said, “Oh,” and they thought through it, “Okay, fine.” Good, done. There’s a shorthand for all this stuff, that sloppy thinkers like me do and they say, “Oh, this is a Netflix killer,” but that’s just a sloppy headline. 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